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Debian Debian novosti

Discussion in 'Debian, LinuxMint, Ubuntu' started by pavik, 13.03.2013.

  1. Filip

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    Kontam da je Džesika trebala da bude "Buster"... :sarcastic: :D
     
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    Možda još neko nije video, ali Richard Hartmann objavljuje tabelarno koliko bugove je potrebno ukloniti da bi se stiglo do novog izdanja. Više ovde.
     
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    Imaćemo "skockanu" jessie zahvaljujući systemd džukelama koje bagove "rešavaju" sa "wontfix"..
     
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    Skockani Debian "Wontfix" Jessie :D
     
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    Jedina vidljiva stvar poboljšanja je zanimljiv artwork... moram da priznam...
    Mislim, defoltni izgled nije onako slepački kao što u debianu inače zna da bude...
     
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  13. Dragan

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    Debian Jessie postaje "stable"...paketi sa oznakom stable upravo se pojavljuju u repou (libreoffice..) :)
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    [[email protected]][/home/dragan/Desktop]# apt list --upgradable
    Listing... Done
    fonts-opensymbol/stable 2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 2:102.6+LibO4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-base/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-base-core/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-base-drivers/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-calc/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-common/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-core/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-draw/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-gtk/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-help-en-us/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-impress/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-java-common/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-math/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-report-builder-bin/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-sdbc-firebird/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-style-galaxy/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-style-tango/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 all [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    libreoffice-writer/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    python3-uno/stable 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:4.3.3-2]
    uno-libs3/stable 4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4.3.3-2]
    ure/stable 4.3.3-2+deb8u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4.3.3-2]
    [[email protected]][/home/dragan/Desktop]# apt dist-upgrade
     
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    Debianeri su zajebali i Mozillu sa update-ima :D
     
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    Misliš zeznuli Iceweasel ili IceCat :music: :D
     
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    Problem sa Debianom već duže vreme, sigurno 3-4 godine unazad, još kada je Wheezy bio testing,..je što on uopšte više nije stabilan u onoj meri u kojoj je bio ranije.
    Već je Wheezy pokazao da bi Debianu daleko više odgovarao semi-rolling, ili čak i full-rolling model razvoja, umesto postojećeg.
    Naravno, birokratizovanoj strukturi i lovatorima na vrhu lanca ishrane u njoj taj model nikako ne odgovara...postojeće stanje omogućava dreku i galamu kako je nešto stabilno, iako to nije.
    Dolazimo do paradoksa da je Arch na primer na serverima znatno stabilniji nego Debian, što je velika blamaža i dokaz da Debian danas samo živi od stare slave, i da daleko zaostaje za ostalim nezavisnim distribucijama.
     
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    Ovo mogu da potvrdim lično kroz par testova da se Jessie jednostavno ne sme koristiti nikako za održavanje iole važnog servera, pa čak ni za obuku jer je izuzetno nestabilna, ima curenje memorije na sve strane, opterećuje CPU za 10-20% više nego što je potrebno, o paketima neću ni da pričam.

    "Sedmica" je tu i tamo... za serversku ediciju mislim da je to zadnja verzija koju ću ja ikada instalirati na neki server, ispod toga nema smisla zbog nekih naprednijih funkcija (a nešto mi se ne da da pečujem kojekakve pakete na starim verzijama) u vidu komunikacije na relaciji (kod mene konkretno) apache2-php gde je razlika nebo i zemlja i naprednijih verzija Debiana gde je sve nestabilno kao najgori testing.

    Debian je od svoje početne namene i politike otišao u krajnju suprotnost, no ovima na vrhu što su ga pre godinu dana preuzeli očigledno ne odgovara i teraju rolling model distribucije po načinu dosadašnjeg, odnosno prevedeno je to katastrofa.

    Arch, Freebsd i Slackware za servere ostalo ni za onu stvar ne valja.
     
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    Da li možeš da mi objasniš zašto Arch kao server? FreeBSD i Slackware su mi jasni zašto, ali mi se čini da je Arch malo neobičan izbor za server.
     
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    Zasto ne Arch za server.

    KISS filozofija se mnogima svida, ne pametuje se previse.
    Arch je BRZ.
    I nije toliko nestabilan kolko se prica. To i kada se desi obicno su GUI aplikacije a to serveru ne treba.
    Naravno da se na serveru pazi na pakete iz testing repoa. Vjerovatno se AUR i ne koristi.
    Bugovi se ispravljaju mnogo brze nego u ostalih distri.
    ...

    :)
     
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